PAGE 2, SECTION 1 WISCONSIN STATE JOURNAL, THURSDAY, JUNE 9, 1977 Bryant to pursue anti-homosexual crusade homosexuality, which she calls an jig after Dade County's homosexual Bryant says she is setting out for simi- elsewhere to fight MIAMI (AP)- Inspired to dance a rights law was defeated, singer Anita abomination to God. crusades lar Bryant, 37, vowed Tuesday night, shortly after it became apparent her Save Our Children crusade had de- "All America and all the world will hear what the people have said," Miss feated the homosexual rights ordi- nance here by a 2-1 margin. -reflecting a - was 202,- 319 votes against the law to 89,562 for The unofficial vote surprisingly high turnout retaining It was the first referendum in a a law forbidding discrimination based on sexual preference. major American metropolitan area on In the excitement as the votes were counted, Miss Bryant said Save Our Children had set its sights on San Antonio, Tex., Minneapolis, California and Washington. But Mike Thompson, the advertis- ing man who wrote Save Our Chil- ges against children by homosexuals, dren's pamphlets citing alleged outra- said Wednesday no specific areas have been selected. over her objections. Thompson said dren in January after the Dade County Miss Bryant formed Save Our Chil- commission passed the ordinance the group would meet next week with a representative of Sen. Jesse Helms (R-N.C.) to choose the next arena. Helms has publicly announced his port of Miss Bryant's group. -dns Thompson and Miss Bryant said they are considering setting up a Jesse Jackson's campaign against Washington office, presumably to Congress. And Thompson said Save Our Children is interested in the Rev. focus on a homosexual rights bill in sexually explicit song lyrics. In Miami, the Save Our Children from church groups. A force of volun- out petitions to get the 62,000 signa- teer women, many of them Baptists, campaign drew much of its backing canvassed by telephone and handed tures that forced the Dade County ref- erendum. A number of ministers and a few a mother of four, vote for repeal. Roman Catholic Arch- bishop Coleman Carroll instructed pri- rabbis urged their congregations to ests to read a pro-repeal letter during Two Episcopal bishops split over the law. moter of Florida citrus products said she doesn't have any political am- bitions broader than defeating homo- Miss Bryant Sunday services. sexual rights laws. fundamentalist Christian and a pro- "In victory, we shall not be vindic- tive," she said. "We shall continue to seek help and change for homosexuals themselves, whose sad and sick values belie the word 'gay' which they pa- thetically use to cover their unhappy lives." they can Homosexual spokesman Bob Kuntz responded to the vote by calling for and boycott Miami as "the most hate- homosexuals to organize nationally ful city in the country spend $25 more and go to the Baha- mas. 66 Miss Bryant said she would spend several days with her family before plunging back into the work against homosexual rights laws. 615117 Milwaukee Sex Privacy Bill Stirs Up a Dispute Staff Correspondence A proposal to relax the statutory restrictions on sex- ual activities might be ex- pected to raise some contro- versy, and it has. AR A Racine radio station says an investigation it conducted revealed "glaring irregulari- ties" in a petition circulated by supporters of the bill (A- 323). The author and supporters of the bill concede that a mis- take was made in the petition but claim that foes of the measure have seized on the issue as a last gasp effort to block it. The petition asks state lawmakers to vote in favor of the bill, which would allow consenting adults to have sexual relations, including those considered sexual perv- ersion, as long as they were in private and did minors. It not involve It maintains that present laws "criminalize much of what is now regard- ed as normal physical expres- sion of love and affection." Long List The petition lists the names of more than 100 state clergy who support the measure and 10 organizations that it says "specifically endorsed" the The radio station says it checked with all 10 organiza- tions and they denied ever having seen the bill or en- dorsing it. The organizations it con- tacted were the Wisconsin League of Women Voters, the Wisconsin Psychiatric Asso- ciation, the American Psy- chological Association, the ic Health As- Public Health , the American Med- ical Association, the National Council of Churches in Christ, the National Federa- tion of Priests Council, the YWCA, the United tion of Teachers and American B Association. the Mistake Conceded Rep. David Clarenbach (D Madison), the main author o the measure, concedes that "a I minor mistake was clearly made" by a group working in support of the bill. Claren- bach said the petition should I have stated that the 10 nizations "e "endorsed orga- sed the con- cept embodied in the sexual privacy bill." The Rev. Judith Michaels of Milwaukee, a Presbyterian minister who serves in the United Ministry in Higher ucation at UWM and who on the petition. commented that "there was a mixup in communication' and that "we're working it out now." As to how the mis- conception occurred, she said that "I really don't have an answer. I didn't work on that part of it and don't know who did." Clarenbach said he was contacting all of the organi- zations to determine what their position would be on the specific Wisconsin bill, and that of those that had responded so far, "I haven't found one that does not sup- port the bill." Time Running Out He said he might not hear from all of them in the week or so remaining in the pres- ent legislative sessio and thus might not I able to claim endorsements from all. Neither house of the legisla- ture has taken any final ac- tion on the bill. Clarenbach said foes of the bill were arguing that it was immoral and not acceptable to the religious community -thus the drive to put to- gether a list of clergy sup- port. Another supporter, Rep. Stephen Leopold (D-Milwau- kee), said it was "gross dis- tortion" to say the bill would legalize or endorse prostitu- tion, as I some critics have claimed. "All it does is remove archaic laws that aren't ob- served anyway," he said. --- STANDARD PRESS Wed., June 22, 1977 CLEANINGS BY BILL SHERMAN Controversial Sex Bill Raises Questions There were some strange circumstances sur- rounding the near demise of Assembly Bill 323 last week the legislation which would have legalized acts of sexual perversion and fornication in private between consenting adults. Don Edmark, newsman for WRJN radio in Racine, uncovered the story, and his work prob- ably halted the bill. It is now in limbo in the Joint Finance Committee, where it is likely to die. Intrigued by the whole thing, I gave Edmark a call at his home Thursday. Here's the story he told me: An hour before the first vote in the Assembly was taken May 5 on AB 323, a petition appeared on the desks of all the assemblymen stating that the bill was "specifically endorsed" by such groups as the League of Women Voters, the National Council of Churches in Christ, the YWCA, the National Federation of Priests Council, the American Bar Association, the United Federation of Teachers and others. Many assemblymen have said since then that the impressive list of supporters was very influential in their voting for the bill, which passed easily, Edmark said. Hearing about the petition, Edmark was sur- prised to find the names of so many groups which he would expect to oppose the bill. So he decided to call and ask why they favored it when it seemed to be contrary to their moral stance. To his surprise, the first organization he called had never heard of the bill. He called a second, and a third, and finally all ten of the organizations which were alleged to have "specifically en- dorsed" the bill. None had heard of it, and none could offer any explanation for their organization being listed on the petition. David Clarenbach, the 24-year-old Madison assemblyman who authored the bill, said the peti- tion had a "minor mistake" and said it should have indicated the organizations "endorsed the concept of the bill. Edmark told me that even that's not true. Many of them wouldn't endorse the concept of it, he said. Clarenbach disputed that Tuesday on the phone from his Madison office. All of the organi- zations listed have endorsed the "consenting adults" principle, and some of them have endorsed AB 323 specifically, he said. He said he did not work on getting the en- dorsements and did not know who made the mistake. "My name didn't appear on that letter," he said. Rev. Judith Michaels, Milwaukee, a circulator of the petition, told me Monday that the confusion resulted from several people working on it. It was a composite effort, she said, and the person who got the list of the supporting agencies didn't clarify whether it was the national or the local group. "Nothing was intentionally fraudulent," she said. Based on his investigation, Edmark has said that the motivation behind the bill is not con- cerned with what couples, married or unmarried, do in private. "This is a smoke screen, "he has said on the air. "The motivation for Bill 323, as it now sur- faces, is to legalize homosexuality in Wisconsin." I asked Edmark why he thought that was true, and he said because many who have supported the bill and appeared at a hearing in its behalf are "closely allied with the gay rights movement in Madison and Milwaukee." I asked Cloyd Porter Burlington assembly- man who voted against the bill -- about that, and he concurred. "It has been very evident that all the gay groups are in support of it," he said. Both Rev. Michaels and Assemblyman Claren- bach agreed that people in the gay rights move- ment are in favor of the bill, and Clarenbach affirmed that it would legalize homosexual acts between consenting adults in private. But he denied that legalizing homosexual acts is the motivation behind the bill. "The principal behind the bill is that of sexual privacy," he said, "for all Wisconsin adults." THREAT Porter also told me, and Edmark confirmed it, that Assemblyman James Rooney of Racine re- ceived a letter from a gay rights activist which contained a threat to Edmark. Porter said the gay rights movement in Wisconsin is "very radical very dangerous." "I'd say Don (Edmark) had better watch him- self," Porter said. -- What does it all mean? A couple things. First, that the gay rights movement in Wisconsin possibly galvanized by the Anita Bryant epic in Florida may be coming out of the shadows and may be more vocal and more active in the future. And second, that some very serious questions need to be answered about the appearance of a petition May 5 which influenced votes in the State Assembly. There is talk of an investigation of the whole matter by the legislature. If AB 323 is a gay rights inspired bill to legalize homosexuality, the lawmakers and the public should know that. Let's hope the truth comes out. And let's also hope that AB 323 dies quietly in the Joint Finance Com- mittee. I don't believe the people of this state would want to legalize homosexuality -- whatever the motivation behind the bill. --- considered sexual perversions, as long as they took place in private and did not involve minors. According to the bill's sponsor, Rep. David Clarenbach (D-Madison), the bill would not legalize any sexual crimes involving children, obscenity (lewd and lascivious behavior) nor prostitution. Clarenbach maintained that the only sexual crimes that this bill deals with are fornication and forms of sexual perversion between consenting adults in private. "I introduced this bill because I feel the current laws are unrealistic and outdated," Clarenbach explained. "They prohibit certain sexual activi- ties between consenting adults in private which are practiced by about 90 per cent of our adult population. "I really do not want 90 per cent of our adults to be classed as criminals." The bill was first brought to the as- sembly in February, 1977. It was then sent to the Judiciary Committee where amendments were made, and was then sent back to the assembly for reconsid- The bill's path through the legisla- ture has been a long and bumpy one. There has been a considerable amount of debate over the bill and various in- cidents surrounding it. Both critics and endorsers have been very vocal in their arguments. Clarenbach categorized the major opposition as, "right wing groups, the Wisconsin Society for American Decency, and certain religious groups. As for supporters, he said there are a large number of ministers who back the bill, as well as the Wisconsin Allience for Sexual Privacy (WASP), which consists of various clergymen, gay rights activists, a number of medi- cal professionals, and sex educators. Representative Susan Engeleiter (R- Brookfield) said that she has received "virtually no mail from consistuents opposed to the bill, and some in favor of it.' She said there was originally some confusion concerning the text of the bill. "Some felt that it would legalize pro- stitution," she explained, "but after careful research it was determined Lucey did not think he would sign the bill. But Hess claims that Lt. Governor Shreiber said, informally, that he would sign it. Hess indicated supporters wanted to wait until Lucey left for Mexico before bringing it out. Clarenbach has said that sending the bill to the Joint Finance Committee was "purely routine. " "Any bill that has any fiscal impact must be sent through this committee, he said. (According to Clarenbach, AB323 deals with criminal penalties and therefore has fiscal impact.) Clarenbach did state however, that the bill ran into a problem which origi- nated from a "clerical error." "Through various lobbying efforts, a group of 110 clergy issued a letter of endorsement for AB323," Clarenbach explained. "Included on the letter were also a group of organizations, some of which are national." (National organi- zations rarely endorse specific bills.) "This was actually a clerical error,' he continued. "Instead of saying these groups endorsed the rights to privacy we inadvertantly said they specifically endorsed AB323," Clarenbach said. "Some groups against the bill made " arguments could be more damaging to the legislator. "I know John and I knew he would be against the bill...and I asked that he not be quite so adamant about it and he has not been," Durand claimed. Durand claimed that his acquaint- ance with Shabaz began when he (Du- rand) worked on Shabaz's first campaign back in 1964. When questioned, Shabaz denied knowing who Durand and Hess are. "I do not recall either," Shabaz said. "Durand might have worked on my campaign, but then again, a lot of peo- ple say they do that I do not know. I have never talked to either." The Gay People's Union that Hess and Durand head up can not be directly involved in any lobbying efforts (Hess said law forbids any non-profit organi- zation from using more than 10 per cent of their finances on lobbying efforts). But the two voice their support for the bill through WASP. Hess said that if passed, the bill would be of some benefit to gay peo- ple's organizations. "Right now it is difficult for a 'crimi- --- State Jound 7-7-77 Clarenbach to appeal CIA refusal State Rep. David Clarenbach said Wednesday he will appeal a Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) ruling bar- ring him from receiving any records on what information the agency has on the Wisconsin Legislature and what guidelines it used in getting the infor- mation. The CIA said the information is classified. Clarenbach originally became upset with the CIA in March when he found out the agency's domestic divi- sion in Milwaukee was looking into his sponsorship of a privacy in personal records bill. Clarenbach headed a study com- mittee last year that drafted the bill (AB-400), which the CIA apparently believes would make its work of sur- veillance of Wisconsin citizens more difficult. Dennis Berend, deputy assistant to the CIA director, said the CIA has an interest in bills like AB-400 because it wants its agents to avoid conflict with state laws. After Clarenbach found out about the CIA's interest in his bill, he asked Berend to tell what additional infor mation it has collected on the Wiscon- sin Legislature and why it wants it. Berend refused and Clarenbach End to state business with S. Africa sought 9/21/71 By Mark C. Hazelbaker of the Cardinal Staff The State of Wisconsin would be red from doing business with mpanies investing or operating apartheid South Africa under a I introduced last week by Rep. vid Clarenbach, D-Madison. The state would be required to e preference to contractors Chout South African operations investments, even if companies h such operations come in with lowest bids, Clarenbach said. UNDER PRESENT state law, lowest bid wins a contract. renbach's bill, AB 1005, would ow the state to accept a bid as ch as 10 per cent higher than - low bid if the low bidder dealt th South Africa The bill might cost the state re money for some products d services, Clarenbach knowledged. He said, "If economics is the only factor in decision making, we wouldn't allow unions or all sorts of health and public safety regulations." "It is time for all units of government to become more sensitive to the pressure they can use to end discriminatory policies in this country and around the world," Clarenbach said. He called the proposal a "bargaining tool," to attract public attention to the controversy. CLARENBACH ALSO called on the UW Board of Regents to reverse its decision to retain stock investments in corporations doing business in South Africa. "The University of Wisconsin Board of Regents would be taking the law into their own hands if they fail to rid themselves of in- vestments in corporations that condone practice discrimination," he said. or Present s filed a freedom of information re- quest. That request was denied June 8 by Gene F. Wilson, information and pri- vacy coordinator for the CIA in Wash- ington. Wilson said the agency has combed its files and finds no information about the Wisconsin Legislature. Clarenbach said he finds this pre- posterous because he knows the CIA was looking into his bill. He said that since Berend "has ac- knowledged to me that the CIA does have an interest in state legislation, I find it difficult to believe that the agency has no records concerning the Wisconsin State Legislature." Wilson also denied Clarenbach's re- quest for information on what CIA regulations apply to gathering infor- mation on state legislatures. Wilson said information on internal CIA regulations is classified "includ- ing internal rules and practices which cannot be made public without sub- stantial prejudice to the effective per- formance of a significant agency func- tion." Clarenbach said he would appeal that decision, too. The appeal will go to a information review.committee inside the CIA. granting contracts to firms that discriminate against minority employes or customers. Clarenbach's bill extends that ban to include any corporation doing business with South Africa in particular. "All bidders may be required to submit a sworn statement providing information relating to their investments and employes in South Africa," said the Legislative Reference Bureau in an analysis of the bill. "THERE'S NO DOUBT about the constitutionality of the bill," said Clarenbach. There are concerns that legal opinions of University Law Professor Gordon Baldwin on the University's South African investments might be used against Clarenbach's bill as well. --- WISCONSIN Press Association 33 North Dickinson Madison, Wis. 53703 Clipping Bureau Division West Allis Star Pos AUG 17 1977 Sex bill now bottled up By Gayle A. Falk For the Star/Post A bill aimed at legalizing some sex- ual acts between consenting adults and reducing penalties for others has been sent to the joint committee on finance in the Wisconsin legislature. In effect, this prevents any action on the matter during this session of the state legislature. Introduced by Representative David Clarenbach (D-Madison) in February, the bill would reduce fines for acts of "sexual perversion" committed by consenting adults from $500 to $200, and imprisonment from a maximum of 5 years to a maximum of 6 months. Conviction of such a crime would no longer be grounds to revoke drivers' li- censes, as it now is. At a public hearing on the bill Rep resentative Clarenbach defended his stand, calling present laws "archaic, unenforceable and disobeyed." In practice, the measure would legal- ize private sex acts between unmarried adults, including homosexuality. acts of Although any bill which would change criminml fines must be sent to the finance committee, some legisla- tors see burying the bill there was a Way to sidestep the issue, which has strong opposition. The three men representing West Allis in the Assembly characterize this dichotomy. Gary Barczak, representing the 24th Assembly District, supported the bill. "He voted for it in its initial stages," explained Stanweske, of Barczak's Madison office. "But the thing is dead," since it went to joint finance. Thomas Hauke, representing the 23rd Assembly District, opposed the bill. Citing referral to the finance com- mittee, he explained, "that's a pretty fair estimate on how the opposition has grown. Hauke also believed the "adultery and fornication sections can be taken care of in another bill.", His real difficulty with the bill was the legal- ization of homosexuality. "I don't feel my district wants to accept homosexuality as a recognized standard. Richard Pabst, representing the 33rd district, admitted to "mixed opinions on that." Whether he would support or oppose the bill "depends on amendments," he explained. Church groups, vociferously opposed to the bill in its early stages, have become strangely hesitant to comment. Asked about the bill, Father Joseph Janicki, Assistant Chancellor of the Archdiocese of Milwaukee, responded, "Personally, I don't see how we could go along with it." He stressed that this was his own opinion, rather than the church's stand, and referred further questions to Charles Phillips of the Wisconsin Catholic Conference, Madison. But contacted for the church's offi- cial stand on the bill, Phillips claimed they had none. After being reminded that the bill, if passed, would legalize homosexuality, adultery and fornication done privately, Phillips consulted his files and found that the church "opposed "the bill. 1 The South Wisconsin District Office of the Lutheran Church Missouri Synod had similar reservations on the bill. District President Karl Barth was unable to comment on the bill. Father Norvell, chairman of the Christian Social Action Committee of the Episcopal Diocese of Milwaukee, was out of town and could not be reached for comment. --- Leg Tuesday, October 25, 1977-the daily cardinal-page 6 photo by Mark Hazelbaker David Clarenbach By Mark C. Hazelpaker of the Cardinal Staff David Clarenbach is the crazy man of the Wisconsin Assembly, and he loves it. Elected at 21 in 1974 as the youngest representative in Wisconsin history, Clarenbach has in two terms in the Assembly, turned a reputation for radicalism into a solid record of working on what one political opponent attacked as "exotic" issues. But more than just Clarenbach's con- cerns as a representative have been exotic. His whole political career could be characterized that way. CLARENBACH WAS an 18-year-old University student in 1971 when he became disgusted with the "intellectual arrogance and utter lack of concern for students on the part of most of the faculty." Clarenbach decided to run for the Dane County Board, and left the University. He faced a 65-year-old, 20-year incumbent for the board seat, and was given no chance of winning the April election until the in- cumbent died in February. Three others jumped into the race, but Clarenbach led the pack, becoming the Going far by getting crazy youngest person ever elected to public office in Wisconsin. "I encountered a lot of resentment," Clarenbach said of his early political experience. "I was young enough to be their son, and in some cases, their grand- son. Many could not accept me, which mpered my effectiveness at first." AFTER SEVERAL months on the board, Clarenbach said, most members were resigned to his presence and ac- cepted his seriousness. Clarenbach was also on the county board for one and a half terms, serving as a Madison city alderperson for two months in early 1974. Clarenbach was appointed by the city council to fill the vacancy left by John McGilligan's February 1974 resignation until the April 1974 elections. "It was good experience," he said of his short term as an alderperson. "It showed bringing up these issues, Clarenbach said. "It challenges their secure position. You're called a maverick or a trouble maker. I call myself an inside agitator." "I WON LAST year with 70 percent of the vote in my district," he said. Especially significant was the margin of his victory on the working class East side of Madison. "If Oscar Mayer employes vote 70 percent for me, if I can run ahead of Carter, Kastenmeier and Risser, it shows people are responding." Clarenbach acknowledges that "I take certain political risks," by pursuing leftist issues. "I could survive like most do by wallowing in mediocre issues and Tulating. But maybe it was my ex- perience of being screwed in education and seeing anti-war demonstrators gassed here that convinced me something had to be done." "In reality, the legislature is slow to follow the people," Clarenbach said. "Times change and people change, but the legislature changes slower because of the political nature of legislators. They won't take risks or step out and lead." 1 me you can't do two things at once," he added, criticizing John Mattes, for serving on both the Common Council and the county Board. IN 1974, ED Nager, who had represented Clarenbach's Central and East Madison district for 14 years, decided to give up his seat to run for Wisconsin Attorney General. Clarenbach took advantage of the open race and was elected to the Assembly. "It was a dramatic shift," Clarenbach said of his move to the Capitol. "I had to get my hair cut and attend party caucuses. The switch was "A real, personal test to keep my head above water," Clarenbach said. The degree of compromise expected in the Assembly shocked Clarenbach. "We all have to make some compromises," he said, "but most representatives care very little about compromising themselves." Marah Les 2 10 LOWA LAKE MENDOTA PAT TE 2 LAKE 13 14 WINGRA 2 12 Instead, Clarenbach charged, "most representatives care about one thing, re- election, exclusively." Because representatives fear even numbered years, Clarenbach said, the legislature is constantly afraid to take stands on current, important issues. CLARENBACH is in some ways a threat to the re-election mentality. The key to political success for most representatives is voting the right way on unimportant issues, while neglecting really important ones. Clarenbach throws a monkey wrench into the buddy system of the Assembly by introducing bills and pushing them so that the legislature has to vote on a lot of issues 'they'd prefer to ignore-things like marijuana decriminalization, gay rights, progressive income tax rates and nuclear power development. LAKE MONONA "My colleagues don't appreciate me 17 MONONA MILWAUKEE SP 2 37 Tipe Art 3 151 3 MOVONA DRV COTTAGE GROVE RD DAVIDSON ST. 1 Le MILAU RO 22 2 page 7 the daily cardinal Tuesday Otober 25, 1977 --- County approves gay rights resolution By Tom Griffin of the Cardinal Staff The difference between Dade-County and Dane County is greater than the third letter in their legal names. Last night the Dane County Board approved a resolution in support of a bill in the state legislature legalizing private sexual acts between consenting adults. IN SHARP CONTRAST TO Anita Bryant's Florida turf, there was little opposition to the resolution, which in effect supports gay rights. Only two supervisors expressed reservations about the resolution before it passed on a voice vote at the board's evening meeting. "There have been cases of the mentally incompetent being sexually assulted," said Mount Horeb Supervisor Ann De Witt. "We have to have some laws on the books to protect these people." She added that she didn't want to see anyone persecuted for their sexual preferences. "I don't want to be called the Anita Bryant of Dane County," she added. SUPERVISOR ROBERT ANDERS of Middleton also objected to the pending state legislation, sponsored by State Rep. David Clarenbach. D-Madison. Clarenbach, who spoke to the board before the vote, said, "Government has no business coming into our bedrooms telling adults what they can and cannot do behind closed doors." The country board was more divided by a proposal to grant the city $100,000 for the new Civic Center, though this resolution also passed on a 30 to 6 vote. Supervisor Janis Redford of Cambridge lead the attack, calling the appropriation "Robin Hood in reverse." "THE RICH ARE ROBBING the poor to pay for a $7 million building," she said. "You are robbing the poor people of the county for something they won't be able to see. It's a rotten way to run a government." But Madison Supervisor Leo J. Cooper III noted that "the arts are for everybody. I know people who barely make any money at all who save up to go to the Memorial Union and see a great pianist." For legal reasons the $100,000 is stipulated to pay for an orchestra lift in the Capitol Theatre auditorium, which prompted one supervisor to quip, "It's a lift similar to a heist." Civic Center supporters noted that the grant is a fraction of the total expenditure for the complex. Madison Supervisor William Offendahl added that the money had already been budgeted. "WE ARE CONTRIBUTING A token gesture," he ex- plained. "It's small compared to its costs." The most original defense of the grant came from Monona Supervisor Howard Groth, who noted, "All civilizations for thousands of years have fallen because their cultures deteriorated. DC 11/4/77 Tues Nov 22, 197 Wisconsin State Journal m Alderman protests state building By Reid Beveridge Of The State Journal The state should halt plans to build two downtown office buildings unless it can assure neighborhood residents there won't be any adverse affects from traffic and parking, Madison Ald. John Mattes, Dist. 4, told the State Building Commission Monday night. Mattes was one of just three per- sons protesting the construction of the two new buildings, to be known as GEF-II and GEF-III. The commission will decide Nov. 29 whether to go ahead with the projects, subject to the approval in December of the Legislature Joint Finance Com- mittee. The hearing was on an environ- mental impact statement that said the construction of the two new buildings will have a positive impact on the downtown area. The statement also says the downtown location is much preferable to a proposed addition to the Hill Farms State Office Building, 4802 Sheboygan Ave. on Madison's west side. Mattes, who represents downtown Madison on the City Council, said the neighborhood residents are most con- cerned about the additional traffic and parking. He said the environmental impact statement estimates there will be 900 additional auto trips to the Capitol Square area as a result of the new buildings. The statement goes on to say that considering the tens of thousands of cars that enter the Square daily, this is an insignificant increase. "We don't want them in our neigh- borhood," Mattes said. "The state re- fuses to provide for them and the city darn sure won't provide for them." Mattes said that until the state finds solutions for the traffic and park- ing problems to be created by the new buildings, "it's time to call a morato- rium." The plans call for 46 to 100 parking spaces in each building. Mattes presented a petition he said was signed by at least one member of every household in the area adjacent to the new buildings. They all oppose the construction, Mattes said. Also opposing the buildings was Mrs. LaVern Felts, 5109 Marathon Dr., who said she formerly lived in the area. She said the residents around the buildings have been victims for the past several years as they coped with the proposed construction first of GEF-I, 201 E. Washington Ave., and now GEF-II and GEF-III. State Rep. David Clarenbach (D- Madison), who represents the area, said the state should prove beyond a reasonable doubt the new buildings I will not adversely affect the neighbor- hood. The two buildings, each to be 150,- 000 square feet, are planned for con- struction just south of GEF-I on a block bounded by E. Main, Butler, Webster and King Sts., an irregularly shaped block. The state now owns the land except for two small buildings on the southern tip. GEF-II will be located along E. Main St. directly across the street from GEF-I. GEF-III will be on the east side of the block. If the commission and the finance committee approve the project, con- struction on GEF-II is scheduled to begin in January with completion in August, 1979. GEF-III would be comp- leted in 1980. LANDERS ISN'T easily c vinced that he's actually talking and Charged ---